January 31, 1999

NOW let's clear some of the backlog

Afghanistan Petition is Useless, ETC.






Hello everyone

More beautiful feedbacks and feedbacks on the feedbacks are pouring in including some very good comments on the use of the Internet to *change the world* and the suggestions to renew our communication network. So I'm preparing yet another big email of them to be sent tomorrow, most probably.

But for now, let's get down to some business, so as to say and clear some of the backlog of issue to look at, as previously mentioned.

First there is this urgent matter just received a few minutes ago - and this one means something to me personally because when I visited the megalithic circle of standing stones - or the little that is left of them - in Avebury, England a few weeks ago, I felt quite some sorrow at all the desecration that has occurred there because of disrespect for the celtic culture and sheer stupidity, as most of the stones were taken down to built a chapel and houses in the village now standing right in the middle of it all. And now the same shortsightedness is likely to happen in Florida because of some stupid developer and city council who can't see the sacred value of a new archeological find. Over 2 million people visit Stonehenge in England, They should really consider this fact if money is all that matters to them!

From: Master Ho <ho@masterho.com> Subject: 1-31 RB Special: AMERICAN Stonehenge found!

HI THERE -

THE FOLLOWING IS FROM A SERIES OF POSTS IN A CHATROOM AND I THINK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GO TO THE LINK, YOU'LL WANT TO SUPPORT THIS URGENT CAUSE! ~~~

Did everyone hear about the found AMERICAN Stonehenge located in Miami??? Many elders are heading there now, to try to stop the bulldozers from tearing it apart on this coming Wednesday??? The Hopi elders, elders from South America, Robert Ghostwolf is heading there, Richard Hoagland is there already... ~~~

They just found the Stonehenge, and it is about 38 ft in diameter, and covers about 2.5 acres, the whole thing is made out of limestone...

The person waiting for building permits, allowed archeologist in there to dig around, they have found carvings on the walls, but now the permits from the city have come through, and they will be dozing it in Wenesday, to build some sort of apartment complex if it can't be stopped... Going to be a great loss to ALL of mankind... ~~~~

Please look at the link and then consider sending faxes to plead for non-destruction of it...

Thanks,

Ho




NOW AS I ALREADY MENTIONED THE AFGHAN PETITION WAS USELESS. AS SOMEONE WROTE ME:

The petitions I sent to : sarabande@brandeis.edu bounced: "permanent fatal errors"

SO HERE IS WHAT THE EXPLANATION I RECEIVED ON THIS:

Subject: Fwd: VERY IMPORTANT-Afghanistan Petition is Useless

You may know this all ready but just in case... his Afghanistan Petition is Useless

I kept receiving the petition called "The War on Women" (at least 20 times) about the extremely repressive situation women are facing in Afganistan. Since it was inappropriate to continually forward the same petition, I started forwarding each one back to the originating source at Brandeis. This is the message that was sent to me by Brandeis. Although the petition is useless I do think it has been effective in terms of raising our consciousness about women's lives in Afganistan. If you would like to take concrete action , there is plenty of information in the following message that will direct you to organizations that are making substantial efforts to improve the situation in Afganistan.

Warmest regards, Suzanna Brown




RESPONSE FROM BRANDEIS:

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:50:33 -0500 Subject: Re: petition X-Loop: sarabande@brandeis.edu From: Chain Letter Autoreply <postmaster@brandeis.edu>

A Brandeis affiliate with good intentions but bad methodology started a chain letter recently.

Please do not redistribute it. Please do not write with further questions or comments either to postmaster or to sarabande. The current rate of such messages is around 2000 per day and increasing.

For the time being, personal mail to sarabande@brandeis.edu is being delivered, but due to the geometric expansion of Internet chain letters of this kind, this will probably not be true for long. If you know sarabande's other email address, please use that for personal mail.

If you wish to learn how to do something productive about women's rights in Afghanistan, please refer to the web sites run by Amesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the Feminist Majority, http://www.amnesty.org/ http://www.hrw.org/ and http://www.feminist.org/ respectively.

The latter is sponsoring a *real* petition which should be sent *only* via physical mail or fax, where it might have some effect. Virtual signatures are virtually useless at best. The text you received was mostly plagiarized from the real petition (without credit or reference), but is different enough that it will not be accepted (regardless of how the "signatures" were gathered).

For information on why Internet chain letters are never sanctioned by any responsible organization, please refer to:

http://athos.rutgers.edu/~watrous/pbs-funding-chain-letter-petition.html http://www.nbi.dk/~dickow/stop-chain-letter.txt http://www.cancer.org/chain.html http://www.wish.org/craig.htm http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa021198.htm http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-run-adverts-00.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-run-spew-07.txt http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html -- Rich Graves <rcgraves@brandeis.edu> UNet Systems Administrator

HERE IS ALSO WHAT JENNIFER HABBIB JUST SENT ME ON THIS PETITION:

From: "Jennifer C Habib" <jennyhabib@breathe.co.uk> Subject: Afghanistan Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:20:07 -0000

I am sad to learn that the petition is useless. Even if we cannot change the rigidly destructive mind-set of the Taliban is it not of use that so many people have been made aware of the situation? I am sending you the message I sent to another light worker about this for your information. There are many good and sincere people in Pakistan too, so I was able to live there happily despite these experiences.

Love and Light

Jenny

HERE IS ALSO WHAT SHE WROTE BEFORE ON THE DESPERATELY HARROWING SITUATION OF WOMEN IN SOME FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIM COUNTRIES - IT SEEMS LONG AT FIRST, BUT THEN IT BECOMES QUITE MOVING TO READ:

From: Jennifer C Habib <jennyhabib@breathe.co.uk> Date: 26 January 1999 14:23 Subject: A petition to sign

Dear David

Thank you for sending this to me. Yes I know it is true. I have heard so many tales of Pathan and Afghan cruelty to women and the Taliban are worse than most. When I was in Pakistan I met a lot of different Pathans. I was put in charge of the Architect's office when my boss left to go to Malaysia when I was very new to Karachi in 1963. One of the draughtsmen was a Pathan from the North-West Frontier, beyond the jurisdiction of Pakistan Law. He refused to do the task I gave him. I had to do a scheme for upgrading the men's toilets at the nearby factory. The toilets were in operation so obviously it was not practical for me to measure them up. This man refused on the grounds that the request was an insult. As far as I was concerned it was a 1 hour job which had to be done and then the next day he left the office without informing me and offered no sensible reason for taking the whole day. I felt he was deliberately challenging my appointment. I could not be seen by the rest of the staff letting this happen so I sacked him. He was furious. I felt bad at robbing a family of their fathers job, but as he got another post with better pay within the month all was well. All the same I will never go to his tribal area (Waziri) The same year I was insulted in my own home by a guest who was a lawyer in Lahore, who told me in fronyt of my husband that I must be a prostitute because I worked in an office with men! These were so-called civilized Pakistanis. My driver (my husband would not let me drive because I could not speak the language well enough at that time, so I always had to have a driver. If I had had an accident he was afraid I might be killed or raped by angry by-standers. I had to go to areas where foreigners usually did not venture, especially for my work building factories, for the Salvation Army and Muslim charities.) in recent years was a Pathan with a heart who insisted on bringing his wife and children to Karachi. This is rare. most of them leave their wives in Purdah in their village in the hills and work alone in the wicked city. He was in trouble with his father because he would take his wife to the local Doctor. She was sick very often, I suspect because it was the only way she could get out of their mud-hut for some fresh air. My driver has several times had to go with me in the markets for my protection. I have had quite large stones thrown at me, on two occasions enough to draw blood on the top of my head, and even in the posh and supposedly safe main shopping street I have been quite savagely pinched in a very sensitive and forbidden spot by one of a group of Afghan refugee men in their black turbans. I screamed but the policeman in plain sight took no action. I know I have walked about alone, which is a crime to these men. I also have an added crime of fair hair. To them all blondes are cheap prostitutes. This is because of nasty pornographic films which are smuggled in from Hongkong and all these men see them. These people have been brain washed by the truly wicked Mullahs of the NWFP. When we went on holiday 20 years ago to the valley of Swat I saw graffiti on the walls of the primary schools condemning women who go outside the walls of their homes as prostitutes deserving death. These were quite well written in Urdu and were the work of the teachers not the pupils.

I have also been invited to dinner with my husband at the home of a Pathan who worked for my husband's company as a regional salesman. He could speak and write good English. His home was beyond the Peshawar border in the tribal area. The food was served in a special room by his wife but all that we were allowed to see of her was her hand as she passed the dishes round the edge of the door. He told us that she had never left the house since she was married. He paid a lot for his wife and so he would not let any other man see his expensive treasure! I know that even in Sind Province there are literally hundreds of murdered wives whose lives have been lost because of the husband's boredom or a tiny suspicion of merely looking at another man. The lives of women are really almost worthless to many of these people.

The Taliban are mostly from the Tribal Areas which are free from Pakistan Law or any one elses' and they have been brain washed from birth. Most of the Pathans are pederasts. I was warned in 1965 when my son was born that I must never leave him alone with a Pathan and sadly I know of three English children who were buggered by their father's night watchman when their parents were out. 2 in one family! These little boys were 3 and 5 years old!

The Taliban have been trained in camps where the Mullahs got them from the age of about four years from parents too poor to feed them and the Mullahs let loose all their cruelty on them. A culture where women are merely bought and sold and treated as animals for the production of babies does not have any room for love. Normal sex is regarded as shameful so other nasty practices are used to give twisted pleasure to these horrid men. It is not surprising that the Taliban are cruel, they have been used and viciously abused all their lives.

Does this answer your question?

Best wishes

Jenny

QUITE A BONE CHILLING STORY ISN'T IT! NOW CONSIDER THAT THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT WHICH IS *NOT* CONTROLLED BY A MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALIST PARTY - BUT I READ THAT PRESSURES ARE MOUNTING TO ELECT SUCH A PARTY! - HAS MANY NUCLEAR BOMBS....

NOT ONLY THE HEALING THAT MUST TAKE PLACE FOR ALL THOSE SOULS IN SO MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD IS TREMENDOUS, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS AT STAKE NOW IN THE WORLD THAT THOSE WHO CAN BE CHANNELS FOR THE DIVINE HEALING ENERGIES NEEDED TO BRING THE WORLD BACK FROM THE BRINK OF DESTRUCTION HAVE AN EQUALLY TREMENDOUS RESPONSIBILITY TO FOCUS THEIR TIME AND ATTENTION TO SUCH HEALING WORK - ON A MASSIVE SCALE!

ARE WE UP TO THE TASK???

THE COMBINED POWER OF GOODWILL THAT THE CHILDREN OF THE LIGHT WE ARE ALL HAS NEVER BEEN USED TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL - YET!

NOW IS THE TIME TO AWAKEN AND BE ALL THAT WE CAN BE IN SERVICE AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.

NOT ON DECEMBER 31 1999 OR AT ANY FUTURE DATE IN HISTORY.

N O W




Here is a HIGHLY recommended Y2K site which shed a positive light on the Y2K upcoming world challenge. This subject will certainly come up again soon. More and more media are now revealing to the general population the scope of the problem although most are still downplaying the potential consequences. Here is Canada, which according to some experts is the best prepared country in the world so far in Y2K preparedness, more and more media reports are coming out to reassure people that we should make it safely here, but they all admit that since only 15% of the countries in the world have been taking up seriously this technical problem and preparing accordingly, it is almost sure there will be a major world recession as a result of the economic domino effect to be felt here too when most of the other countries - some of the least prepared being Russia, China, many European countries (UK seems to be on track to be reasonably ready) and surprisingly Japan and Germany which aren't going to be Y2K compliant at all apparently) - will experience major economic upheavals and serious downturns because many of the dire predictions of chaos will most likely turn out to be true in their case.

So stay tuned and get prepared *now*, not at the end of this year when it's gonna be too late according to many.

This site will provide you, I believe, with useful information on how to create a local network of support and mutual help in your community to weather as best as possible to coming tribulations.

HERE IS ALSO WHAT SHANNA WAS WRITING ON THIS TONIGHT:

"Many communities have Y2K organizations now. In our community, this very much crosses belief systems -- wildly. There is a lot of sharing. People are opening up!"

Soulful Spirituality for the Y2K Era. CHECK IT OUT!

http://www.wise2k.com/




IN CASE ANYONE IS INTERESTED... (THIS IS PART OF MY OLDER BACKLOG) SINCE I TRANSLATED A BOOK ON OUT-OF-BODY ADVENTURES (BY WILLIAM BUHLMAN - SEE HIS WEBSITE), I THINK THIS IS A PERSPECTIVE WORTH TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. I HAVE NOT CHECKED THIS ORGANIZATION THOUGH AND SHARE THIS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE MIND-JOGGING ASPECT OF IT ALL. IF NOT INTERESTED, SIMPLY SKIP THIS PART.

EXPLORING OTHER DIMENSIONS THROUGH ASTRAL PROJECTION by Sandy Jones

Jerry Gross is the Founder and President of Search and Prove, an organization dedicated to bringing the out-of-body experience to mass consciousness. He has been a frequent guest of Bill Jenkins on the ABC talk radio show "Open Mind" and an authoritative speaker at Whole Life Expo for seven years. Additionally he has been involved in the exploration of the hidden chamber under the Sphinx and uses his special skills with a major airline to detect unseen stress fractures in airplane structures. Jerry is the leader in the field of "astral" explorations. His experiences, which have roots in early childhood form the basis for techniques used in his teachings and workshops. Jerry has had the benefit of non-physical guidance that has been both instructional and inspirational.

What does the typical Out-of-Body experience feel like? The conscious self lifts out of the resting physical form and, with another "body" of its own, travels by the power of thought to places far and near. At first most people perceive nothing but a "dimensional blackness". Then they learn to see in it. They eventually move into a brightly lighted area, the natural home of the second body.

What happens to the physical body during this time? It remains in a state of deep sleep, with reduced breath rate, blood pressure and temperature. The less in phase it is with the second body the less it responds.

What are the dangers? There are no dangers. Its one of the gifts we are all given at birth, but most of us forgot we have this beautiful gift. We are connected by a "silver cord" that is infinitely elastic and the least little disturbance will bring you back to your body whether you plan it or not.

Who travels out of body? Everyone does this during sleep. Most people don't remember it. If you think back, you can probably recall having dreams of "being somewhere", but as you got older you lost the ability.

What do you do when you leave the body? When you first leave your body, you may not experience spiritual things right away. You will probably just float around the room you are practicing in. Soon, however, your subconscious mind will start directing you where to go. You may find yourself in places that make no sense at all. After a while you realize that these places and things have profound relevance to you, and your personal evolution. Soon, guidance will begin to appear to you, and your personal guide will take you to a plane of higher existence. These planes will begin to feel familiar to you and memories of that plane will begin to flood back to you. You will realize that this is your real home.

Does everyone have an experience? It depends on how much effort they put into it and how much fear they have.It is important to move through the fear of it. Fear will hold you back. Even if you don't think you you have no fear, deep in your subconscious mind it may be there.This is one thing that I teach in my workshops, how to work on your fear and get it out of the way because it won't serve you.

What can I expect from the trainings? Whoever attends the workshops usually have some degree of success in learning how to consciously astral project. At the very least, they learn how to recognize the different sensations they can expect to feel right before the astral body leaves the physical. As people grow more comfortable in these altered states, they can learn many things, such as travel backward through time. They can observe themselves as young children. Or, they can travel into the future and explore alternate realities.

I've been to one training where the instructor lectured the whole time. What is your training like? Pathways Training is an experiential workshop. Participants will have the opportunity to learn practical skills that they can use in everyday life to access information not generally available to most people. We will lead you through a progressive series of exercises designed to make you feel comfortable accessing expanded states of awareness.

The experience itself is a tool that leads to expanded states of spiritual awareness. The act of leaving the body is a skill, like riding a bicycle, that once learned leads to the exploration of other non-physical realities. The individual interpretation of those realities is the birthright of every human being.

How is this different from the Near-Death experience? Its not the same. When you "project", you don't go through a white light or a tunnel. You usually go right where you want to go. Remember, when you are "out" there is no time or distance. Everything is right here and now. Astral projection is different. In the death experience you are getting ready to leave the body for the last time. During the death experience there is a common experience whereby you experience an intense white light and there is usually someone you know waiting to take you. When you project you are in control and decide where to go and who to see.

Is this religious? No, at its essence, it is a personal spiritual experience.

How will this affect my belief system? 1. You will know absolutely that you will survive physical death as a spiritual being. 2. You will know absolutely that you are more than your physical body. 3. The experience will serve to confirm the reality of a non-physical universe and non-physical beings.

Is there potential for spiritual exploration? When one has successfully left their body at will and has been successful in reaching other planes they return to their own sense that the earth plane is nothing more than a stepping stone into a larger reality. The fear of death is gone because they now know that there really is no death. When you get out of your body you will find out just how much help there is for you and you'll find there is a solution for every problem that you have. You learn the absolute value of positive thoughts and how powerful the mind really is. They change their relationship to time--and to death. They come to see that physical death is a natural transition. So they can live life more fully without fear of losing it.

What benefits can one expect from such an experience? Stress reduction is a by-product of doing the training discipline on a daily basis. Stress has been identified as a primary factor in disease. Profound states of relaxation will allow the body to heal itself. The potential exists to receive information on your future life and affairs. When you astral project, you will meet your spiritual teacher or guide who has chosen to "walk with you" in this life. You will receive firsthand information to assist you in working through your karma here on earth. Fears you may hold will diminish because you will have a more perfect understanding of events and the larger reasons why they are happening.

Jerry Gross holds workshops around the country. A workshop is being held in Los Angeles on February 12-14 in Pacific Palisades. For further information on his work call 651-436-8506, or 310-459-7019. See web site at, www.oesi.com/searchandprove or send e-mail to Rgross6162@aol.com.

DO ANY OF US HAVE ANY SUCH OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCES TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE ELSE?




NOW ATTENTION EVERYONE. HERE IS THE MOST DANGEROUS INFORMATION I HAVE EVER CIRCULATED. YOU COULD END UP ALL TWISTED, THE FACE IN PAIN READING THIS.

Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:46:05 From: Alister Sieghart <asieghart@gn.apc.org> (by way of Palden Jenkins <palden@globalnet.co.uk>) Subject: RE POTENTIAL VIRUS

If you receive an e-mail entitled "Badtimes," delete it immediately. Do not open it. Apparently this one is pretty nasty.

It will not only erase everything on your hard drive, but it will also delete anything on disks within 20 feet of your computer.

It demagnetizes the stripes on ALL of your credit cards, and reprograms your PIN number.

It screws up the tracking on your VCR and uses subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you attempt to play.

It will re-calibrate your refrigerator's coolness settings so all your ice cream melts and your milk curdles.

It will program your phone autodial to call only your mother-in-law's number every evening around dinner time.

This virus will mix antifreeze into your fish tank.

It will drink all your beer.

It will leave dirty socks on the coffee table when you are expecting company, all while dating your current boy/girlfriend behind your back and billing their hotel rendezvous to your credit card.

It will replace your Vaseline with Superglue. . It will give you Dutch Elm Disease and Tinea.

It will rewrite your word processor backup files, changing all your active verbs to passive tense and incorporating undetectable misspellings which grossly change the interpretations of key sentences.

If the "Badtimes" message is opened in a Windows95 environment, it will leave the toilet seat up and leave your hair dryer plugged in dangerously close to a full bath.

It will replace all your luncheon meat with Spam.

It will molecularly rearrange your cologne , causing it to smell like dill pickles.

These are just a few signs of infection.!

Alister Sieghart Shades
Characters Ltd. 10a St. John's Square, Glastonbury, Somerset BA6 9DP, UK. Tel: +44 (0)1458 835438 Fax: +44 (0)1458 834844
E-mail: asieghart@gn.apc.org




NOW TO CONCLUDE THIS LONG, EXHAUSTING EMAIL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE IN THE BAD HABIT LIKE ME TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME, LATE AT NIGHT, SEATED IN FRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN...



ALSO COURTESY OF PALDEN JENKINS




AND, FOR GOOD MEASURE, A QUOTE FROM OUR NEW FRIEND GERARDUS:

"I envision a world in which every human being has awakened to the knowledge that we are the 'Creative Force' in Human Form. When this awareness becomes realized within all of us, Love is the result! Everyone will know then that all of us are One Family, One Being and have One Purpose. Which is to share our abundance freely and love the Self We Are in Human Form..."

Light... Love... and Laughter. ~ Gerardus ~ http://www.geocities.com/~gerardus


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